I think a better phrased question might be, "They lie about everything else, why wouldn't they lie about annual publisher growth?"
That makes absolute sense Vidiot.
jwfacts show that publisher growth was 15% pre- 1975 and has decline to about 2%.
what prevents them from fudging the annual growth and keeping it at something more positive like 10%?.
"a great crowd that no man is able to number".
I think a better phrased question might be, "They lie about everything else, why wouldn't they lie about annual publisher growth?"
That makes absolute sense Vidiot.
i went on my tablet today and clicked "yes" that i attended the convention (they probably tracked my ip and two elders will show up on my door step).
i scanned through the new brochure on bringing those who have left back.
i noticed that not once they mentioned anyone who was df!
Also, they very much made it sound like absolutely no disciplinary action would be taken against any repentant sinner who returns, no matter the sin.
Yea right!
one thing i have to admit is that the wts are experts at inducing guilt, fear and creating fantasies.
if youve seen their latest video for single sisters, it will scare the shi** of any single jw sister even thinking of marrying someone who is not baptized.
video recap;.
One thing I have to admit is that the WTS are experts at inducing guilt, fear and creating fantasies. If you’ve seen their latest video for single sisters, it will scare the Shi** of any single JW sister even thinking of marrying someone who is not baptized.
Video recap;
If you are a sister and disobey and marry someone that is not baptized, then you are guaranteed that you will marry a loser and your marriage will fall and disintegrate like a meteor burning up as it crashes through the atmosphere.
If you are JW parents and the husband does not reach out to be as MS or elder then the parents will allow the children to date a weak brother or sister, you will see you child’s demise into a world of adultery, divorce and destruction.
If your marriage is failing because you disobeyed, then you’re only chance to salvage anything is to “Come back to Jehovah’s Organization” Otherwise you’re a dead duck.
If you are an obedient sister and marry a baptized brother, you will ride off into the sunset in a white horse and live happily ever after and have a marriage like the old JW couple in the video who has been married happily for 100 years.
For the next
year, the Jw Single-sisters will stay in their place!-Good luck with that JW Single-sisters.
day 1 release - return to jehovah .
day 2 release - jesus - the way, the truth, the life .
day 2 release - become jehovah's friend - .
The Searcher
Two types of lost sheep:
1) Inactive lost sheep - J.W.'s can talk to these ones and try and get them back into the KH.
2) Disfellowshipped lost sheep - these are the offspring of Satan himself and must be totally avoided!
Lol!
jwfacts show that publisher growth was 15% pre- 1975 and has decline to about 2%.
what prevents them from fudging the annual growth and keeping it at something more positive like 10%?.
"a great crowd that no man is able to number".
As for the fudging that has taken place the question is why they don't invent their figures
That's what I was thinking VI. If you're gonna lie, might as well go all the way. Fudging is to much work.
you know about my not-so-ugly divorce and how me and my wife found out the religion is false.
she still attends while my 17 year old has been raging on me about all the wasted time he suffered from by being in this religion.
he think's his life is ruined, very angry we did not learn this was a cult earlier(he was 14 when he stopped attending after reading the revelation book, he said "in all time and history, how could a trumpet blown in revelation have anything to do with a jw bible student convention statement"?.
Apology is all that is needed, it's not like you deliberately choose to be in a cult to hurt your son. Once you found out you did something about it.
Plus, "Could have been" is different from "Would have been" There is no telling if your son would have been a sports star. There is that little word called competition. There is always someone out there better than you. So there would have been no guarantees that if he was not raised a JW he would have been a "Sports Star"
Hey, I "could have been" a movie star and marry Angelina Jolie.
If only I wasn't raised in a cult------Oh I forgot about Brad!
jwfacts show that publisher growth was 15% pre- 1975 and has decline to about 2%.
what prevents them from fudging the annual growth and keeping it at something more positive like 10%?.
"a great crowd that no man is able to number".
If they have a couple of years of no-growth no matter how they manipulate the numbers, I see them flipping to counting people differently by using meeting attendance and phone-in numbers will be included, then they will start counting website hits somehow.
You hit it right smack on target OnTheWayOut
I was trying to figure out how they would do it and what you said makes perfect sense.
Because none of the numbers are validated from an objective external reviewer there is not much value in the numbers.
That so true, NewYork44M
jwfacts show that publisher growth was 15% pre- 1975 and has decline to about 2%.
what prevents them from fudging the annual growth and keeping it at something more positive like 10%?.
"a great crowd that no man is able to number".
jwfacts show that publisher growth was 15% pre- 1975 and has decline to about 2%.
what prevents them from fudging the annual growth and keeping it at something more positive like 10%?.
"a great crowd that no man is able to number".
Jwfacts show that publisher growth was 15% pre- 1975 and has decline to about 2%. What prevents them from fudging the annual growth and keeping it at something more positive like 10%?
"A great crowd that no man is able to number"
Will they continue to publish the annual growth statistics if it goes
to 1% or below? I don't think they will.
i am sort of new here, used a different username for a while but things got 'difficult' at home so i've since been lurking.... what i would be really interested to know, if you don't mind sharing, is what it was that triggered your doubts and initial research which led to awakening, was it a bad experience, injustice, changed doctrine?
for me, it was seeing mistreatment of young ones in the congregation, they're under so much pressure and as soon as they go even slightly astray they are shunned, either informally (as bad associations which pushes them further into the 'world') or formally - with elders dying to throw the book at them so they even lose their family.... ...then reading about child abuse issues in the press.... ...which led me to silentlambs.
...then jw facts, this forum and coc, wham!
If 607 were true, I would've go back heart and soul.